The Giuliani comments were made after BuzzFeed News claimed that special counsel Robert Mueller has evidence that Trump directed Cohen to lie to Congress about how long negotiations from Trump Tower Moscow ("The Moscow Project") went on. Giuliani had originally claimed that Trump told him talks about the project were "going on from the day I announced to the day I won". Cohen, unlike in the Southern of District of NY case against him, did not say that Trump "directed" him to commit a crime.
After the story was published, Mueller's office, which has been tight-lipped about its investigation of Russia's role in the 2016 election and whether Trump's campaign colluded with Moscow, issued a statement denying the bombshell report.
Commenting on Giuliani's confusion, Blake writes that the former New York City mayor believes he "can categorically say that Trump never told Cohen to lie. As long as they didn't do that during the election, it's OK", Rocah, a former prosecutor in the Southern District of NY, told MSNBC during a television interview. But the Giuliani of 2019 is overtly partisan, serving as President Donald Trump's personal lawyer while often blaming Democrats for the president's legal woes.
Trump officials had initially described the project as the province of Cohen and simply in the discussion phase. Instead, talks continued into June 2016, months before the election.
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Trump's discussions with Cohen about the Moscow project - regardless of when they ended - happened while Trump cozied up to Russian Federation with his rhetoric on the campaign trail.
"He can't tell you the date" that it ended, Giuliani said.
"Probably up to, could be up to as far as October, November", he said. Which is true! Cohen has acknowledged lying to Congress about the depth and length of his conversations with the Russians about building Trump Tower Moscow.
"I just told you he didn't do it". But the President's recollection of it is that the - the thing had petered out quite a bit. "What I was talking about was, if he had those conversations, they would not be criminal". "I don't know if they made it up".
"Because I have been through all the tapes, I have been through all the texts, I have been through all the emails, and I knew none existed", he said.